Please accept my apology although it might be more heartfelt if I actually knew what “flamed” meant. If your email address had been easily available, I would have certainly preferred to send you a private F*** YOU off of the forum.
lollygag
Feds warn not to cross Canada border on PCT
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#23
This morning I do truly regret losing my temper, and once again breaking innumerable societal norms.
I believe it is also against this forums rules to discuss anything illegal such as encouraging federal offences by suggesting they are spiritually rebellious. Or announcing one’s intentions to commit a federal offence thereby subjecting everyone to aiding and abetting.
Call me paranoid but what if a new concept of how to illegally gain access to the US is seeded in the minds of terrorists monitoring the internet?
Rest assured that my two days checking out this forum have been enough for me, and I doubt you’ll be bothered again–at least by me.
lollygag
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#24
I am sorry I started all the insults being hurled back and forth with my comment that I am going to cross the US border from Canada despite the statement by the US that reminds hikers this is a federal offense punishable up to $5,000 and 1 year in jail. I did not mean to disrespect the PCTA nor the US govt. As a law abiding citizen of the US for the past 56 years and having paid income taxes for 44 of those years, I do not take such action lightly. But when reminded of the illegality of this action, I reacted quickly out of disappointment that my hiking plans for 2010 may be dashed.
The trip to Harts Pass by car or by foot is not an easy one. Hitchhiking is also illegal in Washington State so that would appear to be of no option for all PCT hikers. Then to hike some 40 miles to the border only to turn around and return is not very desirable. All of my plans are complicated by the fact that I am scheduled to meet two other parties at particular dates and if I change plans by even a day, that is messed up.
So, I was agravated and disappointed at the US govt. and their unwillingness to thus far cooperate with the PCTA and PCT hikers in making some arrangements for US citizens to hike all of the PCT National & Scenic Trail.
Finally, I am upset by all of this also because if I were a citizen of Mexico and I illegally entered the US having escaped detection, I would then be eligile for a driver’s license, medical care for my children, and I could insist my children receive a bilinigual education among many other entitlements for illegal aliens from Mexico. Some how it doesn’t seem sensible.
So my apologies for having started an insult match.
Good hiking to all.
Rodney
Rodney
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#25
The first US citizen to cross south from Canada at the PCT and who gets caught, fined, thrown in jail should absolutely take the opportunity to get all the media attention they deserve being sure to make the point about ridiculous double standard Rodney brings up. They could very well change policy in Washington this way, through public pressure via mass media.
To put it another way, you could just as easily pull the same stunt at the Mexican border. As a US citizen, you’d be entitled once again to fines and jail time. As a Mexican national? A free trip back home, if you’re caught. And no punishment there, either, only encouragement to try again.
four leaf
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#26
Make Manning an International Peace Park like Waterton-Glacier & then it will be ok to hike south… the US should station someone at the Manning motel anyway to check ID’s, since it is a remote entry point that should be “manned”. Stimulus package has the cash, so Mann up!
gingerbreadman
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#27
I hope that anyone reading this thread doesn’t believe Rodney’s words on entitlements for illegal immigrants. Besides being off-topic, it’s absolutely false. Repeating those kinds of false statements online continues to build up the kind of irrational sentiment that causes the government to make stupid policies like this new PCT border policy.
markv
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#28
I think that if the Feds don’t want US citizens entering the country from Canada through the PCT then they should put up a barrier like the one that they have in Campo and adding a one way turnstile to Canada :eek:. Can Canadian hikers enter the US through the PCT?
Miguel
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#29
In a way the early days of thru-hiking are as far removed from today’s scene as the modern American West is from the day’s of Lewis and Clark. The glory days are gone, a victim of the ills of modern society that creep into every corner of this nation, no matter how seemingly removed.
The only way out anymore is through the mind. Think well, exercise restraint, don’t let reality get the better of you. Better yet, deny it whenever you can get away with doing so.
Bramen
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#30
I am hiking into manning park. Sleep one night, get on the bus and go home. I got denied a permit to enter Canada. It seems like to enter just to get on the bus and leave shouldn’t be a problem. I do have a passport. I don’t think there are Canadian borders on the trail. So my estimate is that getting on the bus to enter the USA shouldn’t be a problem. My concern is what will happen when I’m on the bus? Will I have problems?
John
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#31
Okay, so my friend is in manning Canada. He crossed illegally. He has a US passport. He only been in Canada 24 hours. He wants to ride the greyhound to the United States. What should he do?
John
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#32
If you can’t get a permit for Canada (previous DUI?) just walk to the border on the PCT, then walk back to Harts Pass, and hitch a ride to Mazama. It will add about 30 miles to the hike - worth it to avoid legal difficulties.
ginny
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#33
Just curious: Why would a DUI in the US prevent a person from entering Canada on foot and then taking public transportation back to the US? That is truly ridiculous.
TR
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#34
In Canada a DUI is a felony. If the Canadian officials know about your DUI, you will be denied entry to Canada. So, if you send in the “Permit to Enter Canada via the PCT” to the Canadian government, and you have had a DUI, they will find out about it, and you will be denied entry.
Yogi
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#35
… for LIFE, sucka. And if that doesn’t give an American drunk driver pause, I just don’t know what would.
Eh?
TR