2010 hike - Pacific Crest Trail

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#1

No matter what type of hike your planning this year even if you have done it before just keep in mind this already is not a normal year… San Jancinto got the most snow fall in 40m years a few weeks ago and yes it can all be gone by early May but maby not…
I live 6 miles from the start of the burn area at the station fires local. We got a cold wet snow here in LA last night that had the snow level down to 2500 fett here in LA, in fact all most all the burn area was covered in fresh snow this AM. I live in Pasadena and it was down to 36 0 last night here at my house.

Anyone wanting to do big miles on the PCT should be aware of the fact SoCal is getting the same kind of snow pack we got here in 98 where only 10 folks did a complete mexico to Canada hike. There is little snow up in washington so this might be the year for a SoBo trip, again in 98 lots of folks did indeed do a thru hike that way…or at least think about a flip flop from Keneddy Meadows…
Like i said years go by and we never get snow here in the San Gaberials but this is already the second time both here and in Action we got dumped on…

Meadow Ed

meadow ed

#2

Thanks for the update Ed -

You might not have to do a water report at the Kickoff this year - so much H2O that we won’t have to carry it. :slight_smile: Hope to see you there. Happy Trails

freebird

#3

I was also looking at the Washington snow accounts today and saw 25% of normal. I might not need the GPS…

Brett

#4

My boyfriend and I would be coming that way and not being able to begin until around the beginning of June…If we were going Northbound, would that be a really bad idea? We were planning on finishing up sometime in December, but not sure how bad the conditions would be un North to do that…???

Kristi

#5

Starting at Campo in June isn’t a good idea. It gets very hot in the desert and the water will be gone when you are hiking there. In Washington, hikers start getting snow in September. By mid-October the trail is likely to be impassible. Later than than is really unlikely.

You could start at Mojave or Walker Pass, or if you want to avoid serious snow in the Sierras, Sonora Pass or Tahoe, and hike north to Manning Park and then flip south, hiking the Sierras in the fall, or wait a bit and hike south from Manning Park in mid-June.

Ginny

#6

Ed, thanks for the heads up. Do you think there will be much of a problem getting to Kennedy Meadows - other than San Jacinto?

J J

#7

There is a ton of snow on Mt. Baden Powell right now also. The snow around Big Bear is usually gone by May. There will probably be some near Coon camp this year also. It really just depends on the next two months. As far as finishing in Washington in December, that would be a really bad idea. Like stated, it is usually snowing by the end of September. In 2007 I had 8-12 inches of snow on the trail when I finished September 23rd. You should probably do a southbound hike and start the middle of June.

Robocop

#8

JJ -

Weather is obviously unpredictable, the melt-off rate of the snow is impossible to predict, and hikers will be starting at different times from the border… So I figured I give a first hand account of what I ran into in a very heavy SoCal snow year (‘05) on the PCT.

The locals in Idyllwild told me that the winter of ‘05 was the first time ever the summit shelter atop San Jacinto was buried completely. This was also the year that the Angeles Crest Highway in the San Gabriels was nearly obliterated. I was one of the ‘early’ hikers that year (started April 8th) and here’s what I ran into in SoCal:

(1) San Jacinto (4/20/05): Patchy snow north of Apache Peak, solid snow from Red Taquitz all the way to Black Mountain Road at the end of Fuller Ridge.

(2) San Bernardino Range (4/30/05): Solid snow from Mission Creek Camp to Arrastre Trail Camp.

(3) San Gabriels (5/9/05): About 10 miles of snow above Wrightwood. Solid Snow from Angeles Crest Highway @ Vincent Gap all the way to Three Points (Angeles Crest Highway).

The good news on a heavy precipitation year is the fact that there’s a lot of water sources in the desert. (In ‘05 Billy Goat counted 14 sources between the Border & Lake Morena!) The bad news is obviously the challenge(s) of snow travel. When it’s snowbound, San Jacinto can be very challenging in terms of route-finding - since you’re in the trees - you don’t have the expansive views that you normally have, say in the Sierra’s. In ‘05, a fellow thru-hiker (John Donovon), died on the flanks of San Jacinto after getting lost.

I hiked past Idyllwild, few miles past Deer Springs Trail, but was unable to find Fuller Ridge in deep snow, so I retreated and ended up road walking (Highway 243 & Black Mountain Road) back to the PCT. I was the furthest north of the NOBO hikers at this point - there were no tracks in the deep snow & I didn’t have a GPS.

When I hit the heavy snow in the San Bernardino Range, I found it safer (since I didn’t have my ice axe with me) to hike up over the summits of all the peaks rather than attempt to follow the buried PCT which contours around the mountains north of Mission Creek Camp.

In the San Gabriels, I hiked over all the snow (about 10 miles) until Vincent Gap. At this point I got nailed with a nasty storm - high wind, sleet, rain & snow - and ended up walking on the snowbound Angeles Crest Highway (believe it or not there were avalanche induced snow drifts over twenty five feet hight on the highway!) all the way to Three Points. Even the ‘road walking’ was brutal in ‘05 - AC2 was washed out in places & covered in massive snow drifts & debris.

I guess the moral of the story is to know your limits, be careful, and bail out when the risk is too high. If San Jacinto is snowbound this year & you’re uncomfortable with the conditions, there are plenty of places to bomb off the ridge (like Fobes Saddle or Spitler Peak Trail) and road walk to Black Mountain past Fuller Ridge. In the San Bernadino mountains there are forest service roads that lead to highway 38 which you could use to reconnect to the PCT south of Big Bear. Finally in the San Gabriels, the potential snowbound sections will already be closed due to the Station Fire, so I imagine that most of us will be heading down the Manzanita (High Desert National Scenic Trail) Trail from Vincent Gap.

Happy Trails!

freebird

#9

I’m comfortable with road walks. I am going to have more maps available in the areas you mention for bail out options. J J

J J

#10

Starting the trail going southbound about the 2nd week of June with my girlfriend. Hope to see you guys out there!

Tim

#11

Yep… looks like it’s going to be a pretty tough year. Let’s just all remember that the worst day out there is better than the best day in the office!

I’m going to be starting the trail at the end of April and stopping by the ADZPCTKO. Any takers?

Seeing that we will be battling snow pretty often, does anyone feel the need to purchase crampons for this year or you think we will be able to plunge through all of this hellish snow with lightweight boots and trail running shoes?
All the best to everyone!

Brad

#12

Check out SuperDave’s trail journal for a fun report of 2005.

If the snow holds and you hit the Sierra’s early an ice ax and crampons (plus comfort with these) is more or less essential.

You can sneak by elsewhere without an ice ax or crampons but you should be very comfortable on snow and with navigation.

David

#13

Many times the need for crampons can be eliminated by looking at the map, the elevations and aspects, and timing your hike so that you’re not on icy terrain. Sierra snow gets soft and postholey pretty fast when there’s sun on it. If you hit a little patch of ice on a bad slope, one is safest chopping steps anyway, rather than cramponing along the surface. Crampons are relatively modern to high mountaineering, compared to axes and good sense.

This doesn’t always mean every place every year you can get away without crampons. Sometimes they’re great. You just have to weigh their worth against their weight.

markv