8-9 days of food in bear can?

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#1

Anyone have any thoughts on fitting food into the bear canisters?

I would like to rent one from Yosemite when I get there. Because I’m going for a longer trip (18 days), I’m a bit worried about how I’m going to pack my last 10 days (8, really - one rest day at MT ranch and no need to pack food in the can for the first day) into the canister. I’ve bought all the most calorie dense foods I can find (granola, couscous, nuts - especially macadamias, some “bars”, apple cider mix which is pure sugar, etc).

I see most people don’t have a problem, but lots go for fewer days (complete in 2 weeks, for example).

What’s the longest stretch of days anyone’s been able to fit into the canister? Just looking for some reassurance that when I get there, all my food will really fit! :slight_smile:

Thanks
Sophie

Sophie

#2

I just received the Backpackers Cache that I purchased from Campmor. 2 pounds - 9 ounces. I’m doing 7 days with it, and it shouldn’t be a problem. Remember, ALL smellables need to go in the can (toothpaste, sunscreen, etc). Choose the right foods, repackage, and you should be OK. You can also leave the first day’s food out of the can.

Good luck! When is your start date? Mine is August 11 - SOBO.

Jeffrey Hunter

#3

You will easily get 9 days worth of the food you mention into a Garcia which I think is the type Yosemite rent.

As long as it is out of its original packaging you can just force the food in so there are no air spaces. Food like couscous/nuts/clif bars isn’t going to be damaged after being squeezed into a tight space then levered back out.

Wish I was heading out there again instead of reading about it on screen!

Phil B

#4

Sofie,
The largest and lightest bear canister is the Expedition sized Bearikade. Check out www.wild-ideas.net
I own one and it’s great!. They rent them out and it dosen’t cost a arm and leg. They will mail it out to you and when your done, you mail it back.
I can fit 14 days of food in mine if I select the right foods to pack.

SierraShade

Sierrashade

#5

Go to:
http://www.pcta.org/planning/before_trip/health/canistercare.doc

I don’t really put the M&M’s in lose (something not quite appealing about that) but it is true, the sandwich baggies pack in much tighter than Ziplocks.

The down side: Things start to pick up water or go stale faster. So for resupply, I packed in sandwich bags, with a Ziplock outer bag, which I can remove at the last minute.

Sue

sssssue

#6

Today I mailed my resupply kits to Muir Ranch and Red’s. Here is what I learned so far and what at least I think works. This is only the second time I have used a canister, the first being in Denali. That Alaskan trip was not long enough to worry about cramming everything into a bear barrel. Now, however, I have to cram pack. I am packing a Bearikade Weekender. I have attached a stainless steel washer to my pack to open the set screws. This way I don’t have to worry about digging out a quarter I might lose. I have an orange stripe around the canister in case the bears do night bowling with the Bearikade.

I think once you are limited by a bear barrel, you have to plan your menu and line out the daily items in the same way you make a gear list. Discipline your food selection the same way you discipline your gear selection to save weight but in this case you have to save space. By listing everything you will eat each day, you are not likely to pack too many snacks and you will not pack too many meals. On the JMT, you are likely to eat at the resupply point so why pack a meal for that day when you will have a cheese burger at Red’s? Most report they bring too much food. Hiker boxes at Red’s, Muir Ranch are supposed to be bulging with those that brought too much food. Put your selections in writing and see if they stand up to scrutiny. When in doubt, leave it out.

Individual food selection is the key to packing a canister. Select the most compact food items. Choose tortillas over bagels and couscous over tortellinis. Air spaces don’t weigh much but they do take up space. Air space is the enemy of bear barrel packing.

This time out I used my Food Saver and vacuumed packed my granola and bulk vacuumed packed some items like dried apples and figs. I am bringing some extra small baggies to repack once on the trail. I found elastic bands helped keep individual bags organized when I had to put my stuffing meal with my gravy freezer bag. I followed one recommendation not to use an inner bag in the canister.

I taped a freezer bag to inside of the lid. I can slide in my tooth paste and other smellies into that space and use the gap between the lid and the contents for those items.

Here is yet another article on packing a canister:

Packing a Bear Canister

Regards,

Clark Fork in Western Montana “Where Seldom is Heard a Discouraging Word.”

Clark Fork

#7

As long as you re-package food, you’ll find you have plenty of room. I’ve been surprised at how much I’ve been able to fit into the canister - 10 days worth. This may vary on what/how you eat. Some like a full lunch, I’m happy with a granola bar and a huge dinner.

Happy hiking

Tumblina

#8

Maybe I’m a bigger eater, but I find 6 days worth of food is all that I can store in a Garcia. There is a larger container made with clear plastic, but last year there was a bear on the north side of Forester that learned how to pop the lid off. I was using a Ursack as an overflow container, but between Rae Lakes and Forester a bear was able to squeese my Ursack like it was a tube of tooth paste and suck the contents out.

Dave

#9

I guess it all depends on how much you eat. I’m a small person, but a big eater :smiley: When I hiked the JMT last year I was consistently eating a lot more than the two guys I hiked with (although they often stole envious glances at my hot lunches as they sat there trying to make do with a granola bar.)
I packed about 2 pounds (3200 calories) of repackaged, dry food per day. That was a total of 18 pounds for my 9 day MTR to Whitney stretch. My menu consisted of oatmeal, freeze dried, couscous, TVP, hot chocolate, crackers, nuts, power bars, hummus, olive oil, dried milk and so on. And no, it didn’t all quite fit in the can. For the first three nights of that stretch I put the least smelly stuff in ziplocks and placed it a little away from my campsite. Nothing was touched, but that might just have been luck.
Trail journal here http://www.trailjournals.com/Kristin/

If you are a big eater like me I think you’re best strategy is to bring plenty of food (hiking hungry is no fun,) but find a responsible way to handle the can overflow. Here is one idea: If you take a zero day at Muir Trail Ranch, store your resupply bucket in the storage shed until you leave, then on your first day try to hike to the ranger station that is after Evolution Meadow and ask to store your extras with them, second night you’ll be at high altitude past Muir Pass and bears should be less of an issue, and third night same thing close to Mather pass, and finally by the fourth night it should all fit in your cannister.
Good luck and have a great time.

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