Granite Gear Vapor Trail? 30ish lbs

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#1

I finally have everything in place (or at least I think I do) for my up coming hike. All i need is a pack to put everything in. i know there has been a lot of discussion about packs before but I am going to be right around 30 pounds and can’t decide if the extra weight of a frame is a good idea. My dry weight is 12 lbs. and i figure about 2-2.5 lbs of food a day plus 2 liters water. That should bring me to right around 30. Do packs like the golite team, eather 45 (frameless packs) really not care well up around thrity. I guess I am just looking for someone to tell me that I am better off getting a pack with somewhat of a frame for those days that i want to carry a little extra food or surprise the croud with a six pack. Anyone have any experience with the Granite Gear Vapor Trail?

Thanks

dave

Dave

#2

You are better off getting a pack with somewhat of a frame for those days that you want to carry a little extra food or surprise the croud with a six pack.

Someone

#3

Great pack. Didnt use one but i know many who loved them. I think you could pull it off. 30 is the cut off. Anything more will make your shoulders sore. However, might wanna look at the GG Ozone. Only weighs 3 lbs and holds up to 40. My partner of 700 miles used one and loved it.
If your looking for quality i’d go GG over GOlite anyday

A-Train

#4

I have been saying this forever, and I will say it until I die: The additional weight added to a pack, so long as it goes into the suspension, a suspension, which will effectively transfer the weight of your pack from your shoulders to your hips, in full or in part (go for as close to full as possible–some say full is impossible), is well worth the added weight. It will be one of the best gifts you can give yourself; it will be something which will increase your daily enjoyment in hiking; and, if your goal is to travel the entire trail, it will increase your chances of doing so.

Its a simple truth, and applies to many areas. For example, your boots must give you and your feet the proper protection and support, in order to maximize your comfort, and thereby your endurance and good health. You seek lightness, yes, but only to a point; after which the lightness is costing you other things more important, more essential. Similarly, the object of your pack, beyond being something to put your belongings in, is to be of such design and construction as to make the load, whatever it is, as easy as is humanly possible to carry, by distributing the weight primarily to the hips, your center of gravity, and absolutely minimizing to the greatest degree possible, the weight carried on your shoulders. I kid you not, this is the way it works, and don’t let anybody tell you differently.

Another example. Thirty pound primarily suspended from your shoulders is not going to be an enjoyable experience for you. But, with a few more pounds (1-3) added to the total weight in a proper suspension, directing the weight to your hips, the experience of the 31-33 pounds born primarily by your hips would be an effortless joy. The same with 25 pounds, or 20, or as low as you wish to go.

Have you played baseball with a too small glove, where you are forced to catch fastballs in the thinly padded palm of your hand all day? Do you remember the pain and lack of enjoyment, of wanting to switch gloves with someone, of ending your participation earlier than you otherwise would have? Have you then had experiences where you found and used a better glove with longer fingers, a large web, and suddenly found you could catch everything, anything, the hardest thrown balls, the hardest and fastest line drives, lightning bolts and laser beams even, in the web of the glove rather than in the palm of your hand, and all without the slightest exertion, concern, or discomfort?

The difference is similar with respect to backpacks, its that dramatic. You can have aching shoulders, or no discomfort at all, anywhere. You choose, its that simple, direct and straightforward.

Get the better suspension. And then, fear nothing.

And, when you feel like it, carry a little extra food, or beer, or whatever suits you, and surpise whomever you please.

Sincerely–Conan.

Conan

#5

Thirty pound primarily suspended from your shoulders is not going to be an enjoyable experience for you. [...] The same with 25 pounds, or 20, or as low as you wish to go.

Aw, c'mon, Conan! It isn't like normal human shoulders have ZERO carrying capacity! Like many people, I find about 20 pounds on my shoulders to be completely comfortable. My pack weight is typically well below that. So why should I load down my legs with another 2 pounds of framesheet, hipbelt, and padding? Frameless packs are the wrong tool for medium-to-heavy loads, but they're great for many people carrying light loads.

Dave, the Granite Gear Vapor Trail is a great pack for the weight range you're contemplating. The side pockets are pretty tight when the pack is stuffed, however. If you can sew, you might consider enlarging them slightly. Nevertheless, I don't think you'll ever regret picking the Vapor Trail. It is among the best of the light packs.

A frameless pack is not out of the question with a 12-pound base weight (excluding the weight of any pack, I assume). But you might not be too comfortable when walking out of town with a full load of food and water or entering the 100-mile wilderness. Then again, most of the time you *won't* be carrying a full load of food and water. I'd say go frameless only if you think you've got tough shoulders.

Overall, I'd recommend the Vapor Trail or ULA P-2. If you can drop another couple pounds of dry weight, consider the superb GVP Gear G4 ahead of the GoLite Team. (The Aether 45 *does* have a frame, doesn't it?)

Eric

#6

I must be a real hunk!! I carried my pack only on my shoulders for 2,000 miles!! Grrrrrrr! Take your stuff to the store and try every pack there. Load it up and go for a walk. The pack will let you know if it fits and feels OK. My pack is about 12 yrs old and an external and I only use the belt to balance the pack on steep climbs and downhills when it can roll from one side to the other. My other pack is about 41 years old. I grew up hiking in the 50’s and 60’s with just a rucksack. Packs today seem like overkill to me. But that’s just me. I have internals but I just don’t like to unpack everything to get to some items. I’ve tried to organize them several ways but it just doesn’t work for me. Get what fits and feels good for you. And, the pack will get lighter on the trail. You will dump even some of the things you have now. Good luck and happy trails.

Papa Smurf

#7

Granite Gear makes great packs. I would never recommend a Golite pack. Not very good quality, and seems to me (never used one), that the hip belt is very unstable, so all the weight will be on your shoulders. Unlike your hips, where it is more comfortable. I have a preference to gregory packs, although the base weight of these packs are fairly heavy. There is one very nice, lightweight pack though … the Gregory G-Pack … check it out …

Waldo