Help me find a set up

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#1
									Hey guys,

Not sure if this is the right website but I thought I should ask. I just recently got into backpacking with my friends (7 of us). I’m looking to get a backpack, sleeping pad, and a tent at least for christmas. I don’t want to break the bank but I also want to have good gear all around, that is light but also compact while not bringing the price up a ton.

Currently we are doing weekend hikes in the smokies, and this will be a year round thing. We are looking into doing some 3-4 day hikes in the future, but on an averare of 1-3 day hikes in the right way to look. I want to have some good gear that is comfortable and also lightweight so that I don’t kill myself out there.

Also we will be averaging 8-15 miles a day determining on the type of hike that we have planned ahead of us. If you could recommend the best all around gear that would work for me that is worth the price to an extent, I’m also looking for a 1 person tent and probably a 50-70l pack if I had to guess.

Thanks,

Mathew

									_Mathew Saunders_
#2
									Have you considered a hammock?  I bought a Clarks Jungle Hammock several hears ago and would not trade it for the best tent ever built.

									_Ole Goat_
#3
									1st off, before you spend a dime--get Andrew Skurka's book. You can get it on his website http://andrewskurka.com/ 

and read it. Had I done that, I would have saved THOUSANDS of dollars.

									_Birdog_
#4
									I second OleGoat. A hammock is the way to go. Clark makes a great hammock, but I have the Warbonnet Outdoors traveller single 1.1 ($60) and a superfly ($130)(ibid.)(Warbonnet is a small american made shop, and the designer/owner is a hanger hiker too, so his stuff is rigorously tested--by HIM.) Back-pack Go-lite Jam 50 ($118) is a great, light weight pack. I chose a 50L so that I dont pack too much. I use a "small" thermarest z-pad ($35) for bottom insulation and a lost ranger 15 degree ($235)bag from Big Agnes (pad fits in the bag with some mods) for me, comfort sleeping is paramount, so the hammock is it. If you can get a good nights sleep, you cant have a great hike. You will never want to go to ground again. I can provide you more details if you are interested, as will most everyone on this forum. My sleep set is 88.5 oz / 5.5 lb Shoot me an email if you like.

									_Birdog_
#5
									golite jam 50 is 118 dollars. have to buy online. no retailers. thats why the pack is so inexpensive. no middleman to jack up the price.

									_birdog_
#6
									Hey guys,

So I was leaning towards these:

Jungle Green: Medium:

http://www.prolitegear.com/osprey_exos_58_backpack.html

Regular:

http://www.prolitegear.com/site/order.html

Please let me know what you think about the above, but I currently own double tree two person hammock with the eno atlas straps that is very comfortable. I was just told that I might not want to hammock because it may be colder, but if I’ve got the right set up then I should be very comfortable.

The only thing that I’m thinking about is that I’,m not secured 100% from the outside environment. I’m 16 years old and I can tell you that I will be out there rain or shine and in the snow. I’ll be there just for the experience.

									_Mathew Saunders_
#7
									Having gear that is light in weight, compact in volume AND cheap in price can be a challenge. You will have to do research and you may have to compromise. A closed-cell foam sleeping pad (like a Ridge-rest or less durable Z-rest) is light and cheap but not compact. A Neo-air inflatable sleeping pad is light and compact but not cheap (still worth the price, imo). If you strap a closed-cell foam pad outside of your backpack, then it's volume is less of an issue. If you mean what you say about year-round hiking in the Smokies in the snow, then you may want BOTH types of sleeping pad used at the same time: a foam pad underneath an inflatable pad.

Depending on the time of year and type of gear, that Osprey backpack can be larger (and heavier) with the lid on or smaller (and lighter) without. These days I go with a lighter, smaller pack, but I didn’t when I was 16 yo. Buy your backpack DEAD LAST after you have purchased all of your other gear. Bring the gear to the backpack store. In the store, on the floor, do multiple test packings, test fittings, and test walkings with multiple backpack types. Do not buy a pack that you do not like to wear. Also, if your backpack is a holiday gift, make sure that Santa is getting you EXACTLY the pack that you know that you want. Packs are like sneakers, fit and comfort are EVERYTHING. Pack recommendations are only starting points to find out what pack works for your body, your gear, and your walk. There was a good thread recently called “What size backpack to use for a thru hike of the AT?”.

For me personally, I don’t like hammocks, I like tents. I have tents that are double-walled and made of a heavier nylon with separate tent poles (like the MSR Hubba). I have several that are single-walled and made of lighter fabric that use trekking poles to pitch (like the Tarptent Contrail). Brace yourself, no shelter manufacturer has produced a design that will protect you 100% from the outside environment. If that tent did exist, I would worry about moisture condensation, oversleeping, and CO2 poisoning. But seriously, how can you get your best night’s sleep? A nylon tarp is light, compact and cheap but it might not be what you’re looking for. A multi-person shelter is warmer and saves weight because you can split the burden among roommates.

Keep us posted. Welcome to backpacking and happy hiking!

									_space monkey_
#8
									Currently, all my nonconsumable gear weights 22 pounds.  I have been hiking a long time, currently 58, and gear is difficult.  I carry a 65 L pack and like it, and 2 person tent, and a 12 degree sleeping bag. Everything else I go as light as possible to keep the weight down.  A little luxury goes a long way after months on the trail. I like a two person tent for long hikes and one person for short hikes. Double wall.  On long hikes I get tired of the small space.  I only use tents but may try a hammock one day.  I like self-inflating sleeping pads because I don't want to risk a hole in the new ultalight weight air mattresses.  

Good luck, there are lots of choices and you need to match your needs and wants against the weight and comfort.

									_patrick bredlau_