Jobs for hikers

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#1

I’m sure there are lots of people like me who would rather spend their time hiking or traveling instead of working. What I’m not sure of is what type of a career path would afford me the opportunity to spend lots of time, maybe as much as 6 months off a year to do as I wish while still paying the bills. I just spent 18 months on the east coast running a backpacking store talking more about hiking than actually doing it. Now I want to explore job, career, work options that would allow me my free time. What do you guys think?

Parm

#2

Start your own business. It might take you a few years to get to where you can take off for very long periods, but by starting your business, you control your hours, income and can adjust to meet your desires. This is not easy, but whatever you do is your decision and destiny. A very small business can make more money for you than working as a teacher,for instance, while you might decide to work 4 days a week. Eventually, hire someone to learn and manage the business during your hikes or you become a teacher with summers off with pay. Good Luck!

FastRBud

#3

I’m a warf-rat who makes 400-600 dollar a day doing kayak tours and table-waiting in the tropics, durring the winter months.
I’m also allmost compleated with my captins licence and that will increase my avalible income another 100%. I live in a reed-bambo-hut and pay next to nothing for lodging. I eat my meals at the restaurant and catch fish to trade at the farmers market for fresh veggies.
I have no car, no phone, no bills no one calling me daddy, and no…??? what, wait, I forgot that my tour boss gave me a car a couple months ago, as well as a company phone. So, I do have stuff, just have someone else paying for it.
I live like a hiker all year round.
This year will be the 100 highest peaks of colorado, begining some time in july.
Keep up the thoughts and remember, Its who you know that lets you display what you.
Goof AT2000
PCT2002
CDT2004
:cheers

goof

#4

Think seasonal jobs. My brother puts up event tents late spring through early fall- leaves the rest of the year for skiing etc.

Tumblina

#5

Move to A State that has Down Hill Skiing;get a job operating Snow making guns,operating Ski Lifts,Etc.Long hours but you get most of Spring and all summer off.Hard work,but I did it for two winters in Vermont.Try Adirondack Mts,Colorado,Maine,ETC.Good Luck. :cheers

Old&in the Way

#6

I did the gear store thing and found that is a fast way to squelch any time/money you would put into actually hiking.

Can you teach? I started teaching high school this year, mostly to get back into my field, paid summer off and other vacations built into the school schedule. I was out of my mind busy during the school year, but again, as someone above mentioned it will take time (a few years) to establish yourself. From this you could move to a university lecture position (longer summer off) or lead outdoor courses on your own.

thesca.org has volunteer positions and jobs that are usually posted by the NSF and NPS. Team and corps leaders get paid a okay salary with benefits, but WFR certification and lots of experience leading outdoor trips seems to be required.

Backtrack

#7

Great thread! Keep the ideas coming.

This could be a very useful discussion and mastermind group, since hikers are already half out of the box.

You get off the trail, though, and life still needs to be lived. The questions is “how,” and how to make a living doing something meaningful and fulfilling.

And, having adventures!

Here’s one idea I’ll toss out:
This is not a career move, but it may be a way to for some to “retire” early and still have adventures plus a few bucks coming in:

From the website:

“Cool Works® is about you finding a seasonal job or career in some of the greatest places on Earth. Get a summer job in Yellowstone, Yosemite, or another national park. Find a summer job as a camp counselor. Ski resorts, ranches, theme parks, tour companies and more are waiting for you. Let Cool Works.com® show you the way to live out your own amazing adventure!”

Warning - you’ll spend a couple hours on the site.

Jan LiteShoe

#8

Sorry, the above URL is http://www.coolworks.com.

Now,a question. Have any of you started your own businesses? Doing what? Have you found the freedom and independence (and living wage) you sought, or have you just created for yourself another job?

I do freelance writing to supplement other work I do. I hope to grow the writing end. While it hasn’t set me free yet, it helps, it can be done anywhere in the world, and at any age. Plus when I do it, I own my own head - no small thing, as the stress then is near zero - and the process soothes the soul. The income is not nearly what it was when I worked for a newspaper and had benefits, 401K, health insurance, etc. Not complaining, just making a point about choices to be made.

Single folks or couples whose children are grown may have more leeway for financial risk than those actively raising a family.

Has anyone taken an affinity and grown it into a business? I’d love to hear your stories.

Some folks, when they sharpen their pencils and tote up their assets, find they already “made it,” and by selling their big ouse and downsizing, living frugally, etc, they can be free enough for travel and further adventures while their health and energy is still up to the task.

Keep the ideas coming.

Jan LiteShoe

#9

This had book an influence on me:

“Your Money or Your Life” by Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin, was a good book that clarified alot of things for me. The basic premise is that we trade our life energy for wages, so awareness of how we spend that life energy is useful.

There’s a fun set of tips in the FAQ at http://www.simpleliving.net/ymoyl/gh-faq.asp

For example, if you pay off a credit card at 17 percent on $3,500, and just send the minimum $70 in monthly, it will take 30 years to pay off. But if you send in $35 biweekly, the cc must attribute the payment to principal immediately, so it would only take seven years to pay off. Same $70/month paid, the difference is timing.

Lots of good tips like this, that can impact financial planning and lower the need for a high-wage job.

The sense of abundance and plenty starts in our heads.

Jan LiteShoe

#10

Come on over here to Iraq and serve the soldiers be apart of history, and try to make some sense of it all… and make bucks while you are at it.
some risk but,
…risk is good for the soul.

1/4 of the way

#11

So tell us how to do that…got any hook ups with companys hiring for over there???

JT the Wolf

#12

Thanks for some of the great ideas you guys have put out there so far. I will say that I’ve researched all of them so far. Working at a ski resort seemed to have some appeal but it just didn’t support the real wages that I would need so I don’t think that would be an avenue for me.
Backtrack, although I didn’t mention it when making the post, teaching, is seeming like the path I want to go in. I don’t have my Bachelor’s and would have to return to college, night-time, for probably 1.5 years to get it. I’m pragmatic about the 6mos., if I want stable income I would be fine with the time teachers get off. I always here that teaching isn’t for everyone and teachers get burned out real fast or just become apathetic about their positions. I am curious what you think about that. Also, what is the path to become a university lecturer, Masters degree?? Finally, when you are a teacher how long are the work days. Anything you can tell me would be great!
Jan LiteShoe, I’ve got some reading to do thanks to your links and book reccomendation. That book seems right up my alley, thank!
Cheers,
Parm

parm

#13

I work when I want and take off when I want. The work is hard and rewarding and it pays great. Whenever I want to go hiking I ask for a layoff and off I go. Plus great mechanical minds at my disposal to design and build whatever my heart desires.
Life is good
sparepocket

sparepocket

#14

Since 2003 I have been offered about 10 jobs. I’ve yet to take one. A career - would be to have a free and clean spirit. Take a job when you need one and move on. Add spices to life. :cheers

Tumbleweed

#15

if you’re thinking of going the teaching route, PLEASE spend some time in a classroom first- find a friend who will let you observe and ask questions to get real answers. the hours are very long during the year (a coworker said i must have endurance for my job from hiking the at.). it’s the kind of job you have to love in order for it to be worthwhile, not just looking forward to the summers off. try it first, then go back to school- i know most teachers would love to have you come in to observe, or even come in to talk about life on the trail- my kids love trying on my pack and seeing on maps where i have hiked. it is worthwhile, but go into it with eyes open!
smokey 2002

smokey

#16

Parm,

No, teaching is not for everyone. I was a very shy child and teen so often I am surprised that I am doing it, but I have tried some very solitary jobs (research lab and art) and found them to not suit me either. Like most things in life I believe it is about your attitude and perception. Schools are abound with teachers and staff who will do nothing but complain about the kids and their lot in life. I view it instead as a challenge and opportunity to never stop learning about my subject.

Part of it too is having a supportive admin and teaching at a private school; I would not have lasted at say, an inner-city school. Discipline probs tend to be minimal.

As far as hours go: your first year the hours will be insane. I was in before 7am everyday, stayed until 4-6pm and usually had work to finish up at home in the evening. Weekends too; I was frequently in for an afternoon on the weekend. It is sort of an indoctrination period; there really is no way around long hours your first year.

After that, the hours are pretty much up to you. I know 5+ year teachers that have their system down pat but still work long hours. Why? They are there to help students, tutor after school (a source of extra $$, esp. in private schools), or putting time into grading and prep. I also know teachers who are in at 7:30am and out the door at 3pm daily and leave all their work at school. These are the teachers that show lots of videos, do “homework checks” (basically check off a piece of work, never read it), the material is not too difficult and the day’s lesson plan is something like “Spring Break show and tell.” [Can you tell I disagree with these methods??] I have high standards for myself and my students so I don’t ever see myself going to that sort of schedule – any moment that makes me feel like I am just making busywork or being a teenage babysitter drives me crazy.

Masters is usually required to teach at the university level. The teacher I replaced is a friend who went on to be a lecturer at a local university. We have friends in the department so this is how we knew about the job; also lecturer positions tend to be advertised in the back of journals or periodicals in the appropriate field. For example: my degrees are in geology, so the Geological Society of America bulletin is where I find this info.

I wrote a little about this year in my trailjournal, http://www.trailjournals/entry.cfm?trailname=4233. I would also recommened the message boards on http://www.teachers.net. Be warned that there is a high proportion of unhappy teachers (particularly first-year) that seek the site for support, or as a place to bitch. However, there are some veteran teachers that post regularly and have left some of the most inspiring, articulate advice I’ve ever read, on any forum.

Also, please feel free to email if you have more questions!

Good luck!

Backtrack

#17

I’d suggest you sit down and look at while you like to do, and what you are qualified to do. I was lucky when I came off the trail that i was one semester away from a teaching degree. I’ve been teaching high school for three years, and I realize it’s not what I will spend the rest of my life doing, but for now it gives me time with my son, and I do enjoy 75% of it. I usually go in 30 minutes before school starts adn only stay about 30 minutes after, so it doesn’t take my whole life, but I’ve been lucky, I had two aides this year (seniors who don’t want other classes) and they are always a great help.

Actually this weekend I’m helping my dad and a friend start their own business teaching dive safety classes. I’m trying to get their information up on the web (www.dantraining.com). The friend in his own words says “I want to make enough money to stay a bum.” He doesn’t want a regular job either.

Hopefully you can find a good mesh between what you like to do and what you are qualified to, you never know what strange turns your life could take. I never thought I’d be building a web page or teaching spanish, but that’s where I’ve ended up.

Grassy Ridge

#18

The truth is, once you start teaching you never stop. Even when the grading is done, you’re still teaching. As I hike along, possible lesson ideas stream through my thoughts. On any vacation, everything I learn becomes connected to what I teach. It’s a wonderful thing! I became a teacher because I love literature, I’ve stayed a teacher because I’ve learned to love kids. The trick is learning when to put away the ubiquitous red pen and head outside to recharge your batteries.

There is a school in Vermont that combines teaching and outdoor ed. I believe the school is in Johnson (right off the Long Trail). They work with at-risk youth and incorporate all manner of trips into the educational process. This could be a way to combine two interests.

Another possibility, the American Youth Foundation runs camps that have year-round programs. Multi-week bike trips, pack trips, etc. during the summer and team building during the rest of the year.

Good Luck!

Tumblina

#19

You are so right Tumblina… I retired from teaching two years ago, but still seem to keep coming back to it. I am presently at Petersburg Natl Battlefield as a volunteer (free RV spot). Guess what I do? I help make lesson plans for groups that will be doing tours of the battlefield. And I love it! I also get time to hike the many trails here. Not the AT, but something.

Red Hat

#20

I start work mid April around the 15th or so and my last day is November 3rd. I get paid temp lay off for approx 4 and 1/2 months. I work in Highland North Carolina at a private country club as part of their kitchen staff.(prep cook/pantry bitch etc.) The pay is pretty good and the work is interesting. It’s something to look into if time off is what you’re looking for. I’d prefer to have the summer off, but we can’t have it all… or can we.

ladyhawk