My Pack Weight - Appalachian Trail

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#1

Here’s an age old question, but I would like your opinions & Feedback. I am leaving Monday on 10 day AT section hike Tray Gap to whereever. My pack weight with everything, 4 days of food and water, and tarptent, clothes etc. is at 34lbs. How am I doing? Do I need to pair down food weight (4.8 lbs -I always bring too much - can never get it right)?

I could leave the dry set of clothes I carry, or the one polartec jacket. But the NC MTs are high so I think it can still be cold.

Let me know what you think.
Best, SY

SwampYankee

#2

Sounds a bit heavy, but i suspect its not food. What is the weight of your base info (pack, shelter, sleeping bag). Unless you are willing to pay up to go lighter, you may not be able to make much of a dent in your pack weight. Have fun !!

Bruchko

#3

I’d give up the dry set of clothes and the polartec jacket. You don’t need them when you hiking and you can use your sleeping bag if it gets too cold around camp. The clothes you are wearing will dry out during the night if they get wet. You will need to wear the clothes in your sleeping bag to get them dry, but it works.

Bear Bag Hanger

#4

Swamp Yankee,

There’s really only one way to get at a real sense of your pack weight, and that’s to list it systematically so you know what you’re carrying. Without that, you’re shooting in the dark. I’d suggest Chris Ibberson’s Gear Weight Calculator as the best tool for the job (it’s freeware, written by a hiker.) Get it as a tool to find your base pack weight. Most people count everything except food, fuel and water in that (which means it varies slightly depending on season.) List everything, down to the smallest item (and their stuff sacks too.)

Once you’ve done that you have the baseline. From there, you only really have two options to cut weight: get lighter gear or take something out. People usually assume that lighter gear will mean a lot more money, but it doesn’t need to be that way. Your big three (as Bruchko says, pack shelter and sleep system, including the pad) are the prime places to cut, but there are other things you can do too. Take a look at one of the ultralight backpacking sites (Onestep’s is a good place to start) for ideas on cutting down without cutting out. You can also go to that gospel of ultralight, Ray Jardine’s Beyond Backpacking.

Don’t try to copy what he or anyone else says, though. You’ll find that some things can be cut or lightened for your style of hiking and others can’t. I can’t hike with the standard ultralight pad, for instance, since my arthritis would pretty much kill me every morning without a pretty cushy sleep platform. I carry a 22oz insulated air mattress as a result, but only a 17oz bag and 24oz pack because these give me the function I need at light weights.

It’s a process, cutting pack weight. I’m down to 14.3lbs from about 19lbs when I really started to look at what I was carrying and will doubtless cut more in the future (I have my eye on a Hennessy Hyperlight hammock right now that would cut both my shelter and sleep system weights.) That’s how it goes. The most important thing is to be comfortable with what you carry and not give up function that you need. There’s no way to cut weight and meet that criteria with out this (admittedly rather obsessive) process.

Strategic

#5

Thanks all for the comments. I actually went through and cut about 3lbs off. I did revise my clothes and food some.

You are right about the pack. I have a Mchale, which is 4.8lbs. Tarptent Squall 2 and an EMS synthetic 15 degree bag. The bag will be replaced in the future. The older squall I had was lighter, but, I like this much better for the room. The pack is so comfortable I plan to keep it so that’s a trade off for me.

At one point I tried a moonbow pack. A beautiful product and very creative. I have found I am not cut out for the ultra-light challenge - with all due respects to Ray Jardine, who I respect for his ideals and designs.

Overall I keep coming back to HYOH, but, this was helpful and still got me a 10% improvement - Thanks all, SY

Swampyankee

#6

4.8 pounds of food for 4 days doesn’t sound like that much at all, if anything that’s pretty light.

if you’re down to 31 pounds now that’s really pretty decent for cold-weather camping.

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