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#1

Hello everyone! I am relativly new to backpacking and I’m planning on starting a NOBO thru-hike in February of 2005. I need ANY advice you all have for me. I was born and raised in Wisconsin, so I am not worried about snow and below-freezing temps, but I am curious as to what kind of weather and temps I will be encountering on the trai that early in the year. On that note, I also need advise on what kind of clothing will be necessary to bring, winter and the warmer months. Since I’m not too sure how cold it will or won’t be, I haven’t put too much thought into what cold weather clothes I will need in the winter months. For the warmer weather I was thinking of this:two pairs hiking shorts, pair of hiking pants (maybe zip-off’s and just one pair of shorts), two tank-tops, one or two tee’s, long-sleeve shirt?, fleece pullover, and of course socks, underwear,etc. One thing I am curious about would be the night time temps in the spring and summer. Here in Wisconsin it can be boiling during the day, but freezing at night. I am buying a new fleece, so I would love advice on what any of you personally prefer. I definitly want it to be warm for the winter, but light enough to beable to use in summer, and of course, windproof. I appologize for making this so long, but I really would love any tips you all may have. Thank you! :slight_smile:

Trailblazer

#2

You seem to be making the classic rookie mistake of carrying too much clothing. I sent home about 10 lbs of clothes I never used when I made my thru attempt. You will need a set of clothes that you will wear every day no matter how wet and smelly they are and a set of clothes that you will keep dry no matter what to wear in camp. In the winter you might need an extra day layer. It gets very cold in GA during February and March. I liked the zip off convertable pants for early in the hike and wore the pant legs most days through April.

Big B

#3

I started in February this previous year and brought a 0 degree sleeping bag with me. You will need a down bag with this temp. rating or it would just be too heavy. I never regretted it. A lot of the people I was with had 20 degree bags and there were a few nights they were pretty cold but I was nice and warm. Because I had such a good bag, I brought hardly any clothes. My options were basically hiking or laying in my sleeping bag to stay warm and this worked pretty well. Who wants to hang around outside the sleeping bag on a cold day anyway?

My basic clothing arrangement in Feb. was:

*Keep in mind that you need a good sleeping bag to pull this off

  1. Hiking clothes: pair of summer-weight tights, pair of shorts, liner + outer sock, low-cut hiking shoes, short-sleeve light polyester t-shirt, mid-weight long-sleeve polyester shirt.

If it was really cold I wore my fleece hat, liner polypro gloves and my frogg toggs rainjacket.

  1. Sleeping/hanging around camp clothes: Heavyweight polypro shirt, mid-weight synthetic parka jacket (down vest or jacket would be great too), lightweight long johns, extra pair of socks, fleece balaclava (didn’t really need).

Trailblazer: You DO NOT NEED 2 pairs of shorts, t-shirts, etc. Even if you bring one of everything, you will probably have too much. Don’t waste your money on fleece!!! There’s better stuff out there, do a little research first. Fleece was the best option 5 years ago but the times are changing. Check out the Northern Lite Series at www.mec.ca I loved my pullover jacket…other people on the trail had it too. Better than fleece because it offers more warmth for the weight, water-resistant and windproof.

Good luck, hope this helps! Always remember you don’t need as much as you think you do.

Tell it like it is

#4

A February 1st start worked great, for me. I am from Michigan, right across the pond and found the “winter” down there to be like a bad spring. In 2004 at least. Temps in the 20-30’s at night and low to mid 40’s during the day. PERFECT for hiking. I am not sure if this was a mild winter down there or not, but it sure seemed like it to me.

Snow wasn’t and didn’t ever seem like an issue, but you sure did appreciate a trail that was snowfree. Being from Wisconsin you’ll be alright. I wouldn’t recommend snowshoes leaving in Feb. January maybe, or if you leave in early Feb u may want them for the Smokies only. (pick them up in Fontana) I never used my cramp-ons, but have abolutely needed them in the past. Roll of the dice.

I also support bringing a zero degree bag. I had a mountain hardwear with the expander baffle so on nights when it was warm (30’s) i would unzip the baffle for extra room and to stay cool. It weighed 4 lbs, which i guess is heavy. Better than being dead.

I used a windproof fleece as a camp jacket, and if I were to do it overagain, I would have gotten a down jacket. I thought I would need the windproof factor to hike in when it was storming but I always used my raincoat with my my patagonia capillene underneath. I would suggest a heavier grade, longer raincoat, versus something sub 1 pound and shorter. I would also bring rainpants, to protect against the wind. Yes, you can do away with them in the summer but I had a lot of 35 deg and rainy days. You’ll want them.

I also liked full length gaiters to keep my legs warm and snow/ice/rain out of my boots or shoes. I was able to stay warm with lightweight summer zip-off pants and gaiters so long as I was moving. I’d change into longjohns at the shelter.

Many people say to leave extra clothes at home, but I have to disagree there. You may find yourself in a situation where you are cold and wet and even the zero degree bag won’t save you. I carried extra clothes I never wore, just in case. Suck it up. Carry something extra to wick moisture away. Also make sure your sleeping bag is in some waterproof barrier during the day and I would suggest always unpacking it as soon as you drop back for the day and always during a zero day.

Leaving early you’ll have all the shelters to yourself or to share with a select few. I would recomend a weather proof bivy to keep the snow off that may blow in. Save weight here, I wouldn’t carry a stand alone shelter. But I had enough range to make it to shelters so I didn’t have to worry about running out of gas between shelters. You know your own body better than anyone, though people will tell you different. Listen to your body.

As far as spring/summer night time temps. I used a 40 deg from April 12th (harpers ferry) all the way north. I was cold once. The night it got down to 33 degrees and i was in my hammock. My own fault. (“Boo” on the hammock by the way.)

For summer hiking I would use one set of zip-offs and have a pair of gym shorts to wear around camp and sleep in.

Also remember that nothing will dry overnight unless you are wearing it. So a zero degree bag is handy because you will get chilly wearing wet pants/socks/underwear to bed but you’ll be thankful in the morning.

It will seem cold in the morning and you won’t loligag getting packed up. I always slept with everything within my wingspan and packed up as much as I could from the comforts of the bag. Then you boogie.

I would suggest bringing 2 pairs of gloves. Make one waterproof. You will want one pair when it is cold,rainy, and windy. You will then want a pair to wear at the shelter while you cook. 2 pair.

I had a fleece hat to sleep/camp/eat in. And another windproof one to hike in and wear in the rain. It had a chinstrap and I kept a biner on my sternum strap which I clipped the hat to when i wasn’t wearing it (gloves also). I’d slid it on during a windy stretch and off again during a climb.

Whatever you buy as a shell (fleece or rainjacket) i would recommend pit-zips in the armpits.

Feel free to email or read my journal. Props to you for wanting to start early. The second most important thing is to start.

Some liked it, some hated it. Above all, do what you feel like.

walk fast

Officer Taco

#5

Thank you all very much for all of this great imput. I have a -5deg down sleeping bag that I just LOVE. I have a lot of trouble staying warm in cold weather, so down is the only thing that keeps me warm. If it’s only about 20-30’s in Feb. then I won’t worry about bringing my down jacket. I will have to look into what kind of long-john’s to get, as I said, I tend to get really cold, and I’ve had trouble with long-john’s in the past. I definetly won’t take so many clothes if I won’t need them, I want to see how long I can survive on as little as possible. Thanks again and see ya out there!!

Trailblazer

#6

Don’t forget that 20-30 deg was what it was like, for me, this PAST winter. You never know. Better safe than dead.

patagonia makes some great longjohns.

carry on then

Officer Taco

#7

What worked for me was following 6 or 7 thru-hikers on Trailjournals the year before my thru-hike. They all started at different times and experienced different weather. I always appreciated the comments on gear and ended up “copying” from others. Consequently the only things I changed during my hike was the rain top and bottoms. Thanks again to those who did good journals in '02 and more recently like Officer Taco…I think they really help new hikers like yourself. Take some time and read through some.

Skeemer

#8

Are down booties recommended? They are one of my favorite articles when winter camping in the Adirondacks.

Jeff T

#9

I looked into them prior to my hike, but went instead with simple Crocs (waldies). I wanted something to walk in and I figured that booties would just get dirty/muddy/wet too soon. I used a pair of Smartwool Expedition weight (thickest/heaviest smrtwool i think) as sleep socks and backup hiker socks.

If i have 3 days to spend in the Adirondacks, where do i go?

thanks

Officer Taco

#10

Most popular spot is the High Peaks region. You can hit most of the 46 peaks above 4000 ft are there. Easy to get to the Adirondack Loj trailhead from Lake Placid, of The Garden trailhead near Keene.

Buy the map from ADK.

Jeff T