No experience with snow

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#1

Hi all. This is my first post. I have recently decided that I want to hike the PCT. I am a strong hiker and have had some experience backpacking. My goal is to do the trail in 2006, which will give me plenty of time to log some more miles and gain more backpacking experience. I am, however, concerned about the snow. I have had a little experience hiking in snow and no experience backpacking in snow. I will probably not have much opportunity to do so before I would be doing the trail. Should I even be considering the PCT? I could skip sections of the trail that have challenging snow, if necessary. But I would rather not. Does anyone have any advice/info for me? Is it necessary to have experience before attempting to cross the snowy traverses? I would be starting in April and hiking north to Canada. Of course, there’s no way to tell what the year will be like in terms of weather and snowfall…Thanks in advance for any help.

Foxy

#2

Welcome to T.J.
Just becauce you haven’t snow camped doesn’t meen you can’t. I just takes some getting used to. Check out Gottago’s journal;
http://www.lindajeffers.com/gallery/CDT-2004?page=10
She has some killer CDT pics of snow travel. While it is important to know how to self arrest with an ice axe, how to stake a tent on snow and how to recognize cold weather illness symtoms these can all be learned before you go. I you notice in her pics at one point they crew is in practice of ice tools. You’ll be with a group and someone will be able to show you. Post holing is a problem. That’s when you stick a leg through a crust of snow and hit nothing…or a rock. Nasty on the lower bag, too. And you’re not exactly “winter” camping. While it does get cold at higher elevations even in the summer it’ll still be tolerable. 30s at night are possible, when the sun comes out temps hit the 60’s. When the sun goes behind the clouds the temp will drop 15-20s. We’re not talkin’ December here. Just cold.
Read some journals here, good source. Read up on snow skills and ask us all the question you like. I’ve snow camped all over the place.

Bushwhack

#3

Hi Foxy, i was like you in 96 when we thru hiked the Pct. The snow did scare me quite a bit. This island girl had a tuff time with the plain old slipperiness ! i never felt fully comfortable on its’ surface. I grew up in the USVI and the snow was the biggest challenge . The desert my friend. If you like email me and i could go into it further.if ya haven’t been raised in a winter environment it could be tuffer for you then most. BUT, i had a superb time and have since done quite a bit more snow travel. You just have to on thewestern trails if your’e gonna hike them. Lots of folks out there to lend a helping hand as well. Just do it girl… don’t let anything stop ya if you really want to hike!

yappy

#4

Thanks so much for your advice. I am not concerned about the temperatures but am worried about hiking across snowy/icy slopes. I can certainly to use an ice axe before I go, but won’t have any experience actually crossing potentially dangerous areas on the trail.
On average, do thru-hikers starting in April need crampons? Post holing sounds a bit intimidating as well…
On a side note, I just discovered TrailJournals a few weeks ago and have been reading nonstop ever since. At first, I thought I would never post anything (it seemed kinda silly since I haven’t hiked any of the trails and might not get to for a couple years). But your quick responses have made me quite welcome. Your sincere encouragement is like sunshine to me. I am starting to think that I don’t want to wait until 2006 to do the PCT. Why not aim for next year? :slight_smile:

Foxy

#5

hey, most folks didn’t use crampons. You will, more then likely, see quite a bit of snow if ya start in April. We pretty much didn’t see the ground for aboot 100 miles thru the Sierras. I did a 1000 mile sobo hike in 2002 starting in Wash ans still saw alot of snow ! A friend and i are planning a sobo hike next year on the IAT thru to Ga. Will be starting end of May or so. wanna come ?..:slight_smile:

yappy

#6

How much snow you encounter depends on the year and when you start your hike. Most hikers begin hiking the PCT at the end of April, with the intention of reaching the Sierras in mid-June. This usually works so that there is snow only at the passes - a few miles each side - which you can ease by planning your days so you reach the passes mid to late morning, when the snow has softened enough that it is easy to dig your boots and ice axe into it, but not so soft that you are postholing with every step. Usually one pass a day works well, through the Sierras, though you may find yourself doing two on a few days. In a normal year, snow is only an issue for a couple of hundred miles - Forester Pass to Sonora Pass. And for most hikers who reach the Sierras in mid/late June it isn’t an issue for very long.

Just be aware, in some years, especially El Nino years - you may run into a lot of snow on the trail, almost continually for a couple of months, instead of the normal two weeks or so that most hikers see. 1993, 1995, and 1997 were high snow years. We had friends who carried their ice axes the entire way from Campo to Manning. If you are really uncomfortable with snow travel, and won’t be able to get some experience in the meantime, then pay attention to snow levels to decide whether you really want to do the PCT in 2006 or not.

That said, I had no experience at snow travel when I did the CDT, and we ran into snow regularly for the first two months. We had axes and used them, both to prevent falls and for attempted self-arrest. When we did the PCT I was comfortable with snow travel and had a harder time with snow melt than icy snow. But we were early reaching the Sierras (June 2) and so our experience was quite different from that of people a week or two behind.

On the issue of crampons - they allow you to hike over icy passes earlier in the day - but have their own dangers. Cindy Ross blames crampons for Todd’s broken leg. YMMV

Spirit Walker

#7

Hi Foxy-
Well, I may be seeing you at the trail head in 2006. I am in a similar situation as you. I’d love to go in 2005, but I see that the time would be too short to learn the skills I would need to hike the PCT. I am in Chicago and do get good snows. I plan to grab someone from the local Sierra Club who may know some snow skills to actually show me. Perhaps if you ask around- your local Sierra Club to start - there maybe someone to show you.

Also, please feel free to email me. It would be fun to keep in contact before the big day…so far from now…

Myriapod

#8

To take alot of the stress of dealing with snow I would recommend bringing some lightweight crampons and have trekking poles with a detachable ice ax on one of them. For the sierra you could carry the crampons between Cottonwood Pass and I-80/Truckee.

Pika