O.T. and Firefighter

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#1

I checked
I was sitting here with cable modem and noting better to do , so I checked. O.T. has hiked 70 days up through the day before Easter, and took a total of 7 zero days according tohis journal. That averages 1 zero day to every 7 hiking. Pretty Good. Plus, makes Firefighters above claim aobut O.T. taking excessive zeros, and a bunch just before his big miles a load of night soil from a large male bovine, as there are NO zeros’ listed in his journals between 3-27 and 4-10. All the miles seemed very doable. Yes, there was nothing extreme in miles until the last days before easter, but also, I noticed that his pace was always fast, like doing 20 miles between 9am and 4pm, or doing 17 miles between 8am and 2pm. On his big mile days, the hours fit the same pace , like 40 miles between 9am and 10pm. Yeah, he had to step it up, but the journals support that he did. As far as I’m concerned, Firefighter’s argument is kaput and he’s denigrating and hating like a TROLL. So sit back and relax, and let the TROLL return to his cave beneath the bridge.

Cheese Dog

#2

That’s because he just made up the miles today by editing his journal when I caught him lying. By the way, he is marked man by many for throwing away the personal property of others. Yup, he tossed property of others off a cliffside. You were aware of that right? Maybe he will get the same in return when he is asleep in a shelter, which is rare for him considering he spends most of his nights in hostels/hotels.

Firefighter

#3

Ah-ha. Now that cheesedog has proven you wrong firefighter, I see that you immediately changed your gripe to destruction of property. Changing the argument equates with losing the argument. Plus the fact that you posted your response exactly four minutes after cheesedog started the new thread. What are you doing troll, waiting beneath the bridge for someone to walk by and post so you can jump out and grab them and call them a lying no good yellowblazer too!! I didn’t know trolls had pc’s and bridge abutments had modem hookups. WOW! The information age has hit the closet monster population now too. Just be carefull firefighter, and remember to get back under the bridge before daylight, you don’t want to turn into stone.:bawling

Hissing Ember

#4

Dude, watch your back, now the troll is theatening you.
Guess he’s feeling a bit low sitting there under his bridge!

I LOVE IT! Who tought up all these troll’isms anyway???

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Crank

#5

Let me first state that I think Ben is a wonderful person. He is bright, has a great sense of humor and seems to have bounds of energy for his youth. But I also must confess that he is not a purist and has not done all the white blazes. That is because it was me and my wife in our Cavalier who picked him up at VA Rt 605 at the trailhead and dropped him back off on Charles Town Highway near Keys Gap because he wanted to get to Harper’s Ferry by a certain time. We didn’t mind because were going that way. We didn’t even know he had a journal until he mentioned it. Then I run across all of this.

I do wish him well and hope he does continue on the trail. I understand he is in Michigan now. I hope this puts an end to the bickering about this.

God Bless,
Patrick & Lisa Humphrey
Ranson, WV

Patrick Humphrey

#6

He lied on the trail to others that he was a real police officer so he could throw their personal property off the side of a cliff. Go to hell Officer Taco. I hope you get denied into law enforcement for this and I am going to go out of my way to ensure he doesn’t become a cop. But I guess lying is part of what every cop does including future ones like OT.

Troll

#7

Patrick, are you sure we’re discussing the same Officer Taco??? Because I have a map of Virginia in my office, and the closest it shows Rt. 605 coming to the AT is Warrenton, which is like 25 miles from the trail. Doesn’t show it ever crossing the trail, it’s too far east. So I doubt your story until someone SHOWS me a map showing VA Rt. 605 crossing the trail somewhere. Sounds like left handed compliment to me…“he’s a great guy, just lying about his hiking miles.”

Of course, you could be legit just as easily. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it. I’m just not convinced by crass arguments and stories not supported by the information available to me. (maps):frowning:

Cheese Dog

#8

The AT DOES cross Rt. 605 in Northern Virginia; it is a gravelly road. I know, because I have hiked that section more than once, was just out there at the beginning of March. It is somewhere in that 14(approximate)mile section between Snickers and Ashby Gaps. Rod Hollow Shelter is several miles south of it.

Mini-Mosey

#9

Va.605 is 3.7 miles NORTH of Rod Hollow shelter. It used to be white blazed to Snickers Gap.

Wolf

#10

that’s what I said, only in a different way.

However, come to think of it, 605 may be more of a dirt road, but no matter, we’ve pointed out WHERE it is.

Mini-Mosey

#11

So, uh, Patrick - there doesn’t seem to be a listing for you or Lisa in Ranson, WV. Got that multi-million dollar bank account, I guess, with the unlisted number to keep all the rif-raff from calling, probably.

bullet

#12

It seems pretty obvious to me that firefighter is in no way a hiker.How can he spend so much time disecting O.T.s journal and posting so swiftly and often here?If he really is a hiker he must be doing short days and spending a lot of time in town.I dont believe him when he says he checked all the shelter registries either.One last point,if you read OTs journal those kids offered to dump their pot instead of OT calling the cops.

newb

#13

If you have so much time on your hand to be using your hand on a calculator, maybe you should use your hand on me. If you can get your hand off yourself!

Remember Medium pace

How does this retarded debate go on as it does!?
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Medium Pace

#14

Hi, my name is Firefighter and I am a goddamn pansy ass hippie that has no friggin life…so therefore I sit my fat balls down in front of the computer and come up with as much bullshit as I can to berate, belittle, criticise other hikers. All that weed I smoke has lowered my IQ to the point where I am barely able to wipe my own ass. It is really my self-concious and confidence that is lacking so much that I just have to go out and ruin trailforums for everyone and hurt another hiker’s feelings. Yeah guys, I am a dumbass…I know, I know.

Firefighter

#15

that doesn’t seem half as bad as some bozo police-academy wannabe who goes around calling himself “Officer” already and illegally “confiscating” peaceful hikers pot and pipes and throwing them off a cliff. Those yahoos not only destroy the trail’s social environment but end up being a menace to the community when they eventually are hired.

By the way, isn’t there a character background check of all potential law enforcement officers? Wonder how the Town of Holland and State of Michigan would view this guy’s unlawful and bullying activities on the AT just months before he enters the academy.

steve hiker

#16

O.T. witnessed illegal activity. Pot is an illegal substance–like it or not. Those he caught with it, who also possessed illegal paraphernalia, were operating a motor vehicle. That makes three illegalities.

He, or any one of us who don’t abide illegal drug use, especially driving while using, could have made a Citizen’s Arrest. That O.T. did not, but merely cajoled the offenders to give up their contraband, showed a lot of restraint IMO.

Steve Hiker, why do you label what O.T. did as unlawful? It was the pot users who were being unlawful. If his future employer indeed makes a background check and finds out about this incident, I think they’d give him high marks for doing what needed to be done. I wish O.T. would expand his “beat” to include the shelters up and down the A.T. so they might become drug-free zones.

As for O.T. calling himself “an officer,” get over it. It’s a trail name. If he ever becomes a real officer, I doubt he will be known on the force as Officer Taco.

“Skyline”

#17

“Officer Taco” appears to have crossed the line from cajoling into criminal conduct.

Robbery – If OT approached the hikers and made any type of threat, combined with a demand that they turn over any property (such as their smoking pipes), he has committed robbery. Robbery is the “taking of money, personal property, or any other article of value, in the possession of another, from his person or immediate presence, accompanied by means of force or fear.” Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition (West 1979).

Criminal extortion – “Extortion is the communication of threats to another with the intention thereby to obtain anything of value or any advantage, or immunity of any description.” Louisiana Criminal Code 14:66. Assuming the law is similar in the jurisdiction in which this occurred, OT committed the crime of extortion if he obtained the property of another through the threat of arrest.

Impersonating a law enforcement officer – If OT approached the hikers, introduced himself as “Officer Taco” and told them he would report them or have them arrested if they did not relinquish their property, he was illegally impersonating a law enforcement officer. WE know that OT is just a trail name, but a stranger does not. The obvious implication to a stranger is that this person is a cop. OT is not.

steve hiker

#18

You are nothing but whiny punks, “steve hiker” “firefighter” or whatever else you want to go by. You don’t like a law so you break it, someone has the nads to call you out on it, you then try to hide behind the law. Ben may have been wrong in doing “the right thing.” I am sure he’ll learn from his experience and be better for it, you on the other hand will be whining about this until somebody else “wrongs” you. You will get yours and when really sucky things happen to you for no good reason, remember I told you so. That is the karma kicking your ass for me.

LobsterVac