With a normal NOBO start, how warm of a pad is needed if a 20 degree bag is taken the whole way? Is a z-lite or ridgerest type of warmth level ok for the whole trail? Thanks!
AZ
With a normal NOBO start, how warm of a pad is needed if a 20 degree bag is taken the whole way? Is a z-lite or ridgerest type of warmth level ok for the whole trail? Thanks!
AZ
Those are fine. You don’t have to sleep on snow unless something really goes wrong. And the closed-cell foam pad is probably best in the desert, which is pretty tough on inflatables.
Garlic
Thanks, I was concerned that a pad like that might not be warm enough in the coldest sections. From what I can tell that is the Sierras and then Washington at the end? I hope my 20 degrees bag is not too hot at other times. But I was mainly concerend about not having enough insulation underneath and if I needed to add another foam layer like a thinlite while in the coldest sections. Hopefully I get by.
AZ
I’ve hiked the PCT twice with RidgeRest’s closed cell foam pads (the smallest one cut down to torso length) with 20 degree bags and never had a problem - plenty warm.
Also, as Garlic hinted at - air inflated sleeping pads can easily get punctured by thorns in the desert, so I think closed cell foam is the way to go. Furthermore, closed-cell foam is completely waterproof (when it gets wet, just wipe the water off) versus the nylon covers of most air inflated pads which can get saturated - which ends up getting your sleeping bag wet…
two thumbs up from me.
Happy Trails!
freebird
Thanks for the first hand experience Freebird, sounds like I’ll be ok with the “3 season pad” and a 20 degree bag.
AZ
ok freebird,
freebird is also built like an california surfer (just think ‘wet cat.’) If you’re built bigger I would suggest a full length pad for sure. His thin stature and boney body means he has a lot less contact area with the ground. If you’re flabby like me that means a whole lot of surface area on a frozen ground. I suggest a Zrest if you’re lighter and Ridgerest if you’re a bit bulkier.
BigBaby
$5.00 Walmart Ozark Trail Blue Foam Pad. My favorite. I tried all the closed cell pads and to me this is the most comfy. Cheap, durable, and light, yet firm enough not to feel the rocks and twigs. I weigh 185 and am 5’11" all fat except for my rock solid calves. A snowboard leash keeps it rolled on my pack, and when I take a break I just sit on it rolled up and it doesn’t get damaged.
Guino
don’t forget the silk liner for the bag. it keeps your down fluffy and free of hiker grime + oils.
also, it’ll add at least 10 degrees of warmth on cold nights and give you a cool option for hot nights.
closed cell foam for sure. i hiked through in 05’ and did it like freebird with a short pad. i’d do that again, but I would probably swap out for a new one half way through. the foam does loose some of it’s bounce.
x caddis