Pepsi Can Stove

imported
#1

Since you guys are excellent helpful with the map issue, here’s another one:

I got the directions for this pepsi can stove off of PCTHiker.com, and made one. Cheap/ lightweight/ sturdy/ small. It seems to work really well, although I’ve yet to find wire heat-resistant enough to make a good pot stand.

My question, then, is, will it last? Are there any unforseen problems with these stoves? Is it going to melt one day or explode or some other horrible thing?

Also, if anyone knows how to construct a good pot stand, I’d be appreciative. I’ve been considering using nails or tent stakes, so I don’t have to make a ring, and thus have no thin metal that might melt and collapse.

Also, how hard will it be to find denatured alcohol along the trail, to resupply fuel? I had to go to a paint store to find it here.

Susan

#2

Sweeps has the goods on alky stoves but check out this site for info. http://wings.interfree.it/ it has no www., copy and paste as is. Alcohol is around easy. Play with the thing to get the hang of it, don’t us it in the tent or vestible.

Bushwhack

#3

Susan, you’ve discovered an awesome thru-hiker tool, these stoves are great. I used one the whole AT and LT.

Pot stand? Not neccessary depending on the design of the stove. Save some weight if you can and go without a pot stand. Some personal favorites with this feature:

http://thru-hiker.com/forceframes.html?ContentID=8
(I don’t use a priming cup)
http://www.pcthiker.com/pages/gear/pepsistoveinstruct.shtml

When the stove is primed, you can set the pot directly on the top. If you have a pot diameter that exceeds 5-7" though, you may want to build a stand out of wire mesh for added support.

Will it last? Will it explode? Depends again on design and how well you built it. I know from experience using both the above designs that you can get at least 1000 miles out of them. Since neither are under much pressure, you don’t have to worry about explosions. That said, I’ve had a couple near misses with this pressurized (very fuel efficient) design:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/djohnston/stove/HighPerfAlcoholStove.html

Alcohol is widely available on the AT and becoming even more so as more hikers use alchies. Look denatured at frequented hostels. Methynol (usually in the form of Heet antifreeze) and isopropyl (70-90%) are workable alternatives available at most convenience, gas and grocery stores.

Sweeper

#4

Go to a hardware store or a Home Depot, Lowes, or whatever and but some hardware cloth. (Wire fence type stuff) It is what I used for a pot stand anyway.

Alcohol was pretty easy to find. Sometimes someone buys a gallon can and leaves the extra in a hiker box.

Rerun

#5

So I dig the alky stove and used one for a month on the trail, until some shlep ruined it. We like something better than boil and eat food so what CAN you do with an alky/Pepsi stove other than boil for Lipton? It’s a little tough to simmer with one? What do you Pepsi dude/dude-ets eat? Most of what we made for the trail were things that needed a little longer to cook or reconstitute. Veggy lasagna on the dehydrater, stews, pesto etc…fajitas that warm on our flat homemade pot lid. I opted for a butane MSR Superfly. Twenty days+ on a small can! One hikler we know made it almost to Harpers on one large Primus can, 2 1/2 months!

Bushwhack

#6

I sort of hate to say this but I tried both on a five nighter here in bama as a tryout for my long walk and the sierra zip gave me more versality I ended up using it pretty much the whole trip. Of course I cooked heavy long simmering soups and even chicken caccitori (made using a 1 lb cornish game hen on night two) and those woods were wet and wendy. Only downside was the cooldown time for breakfast that sucked eggs and slowed progress.

lostsole

#7

The there are the MREs. A little heavy and salty and nasty and…

Bushwhack

#8

You have to “simplify, simplify” as Thoreau says when it comes to cooking on a KISS stove, and frankly that’s fine with me especially after a long day when you’re starving and don’t need the hassle of a long cooking and cleaning fiasco.

Simple stove means simple meals but not neccessarily boring and bland. One thing I’ve come to believe: with some imagination and resources, you can make incredible meals that are simple “just add water” concoctions in the woods.

Consider numerous gourmet sauces that you can dehydrate and reconstitute quickly. Sliced up dried zucchini/ squash and blended sun-dried tomatos with herbs, maybe try some egg-plant mushrooms etc.?.. Equals a dehydrated scrumptious sauce that takes about 3 minutes to prepare with quick cooking angel hair pasta. Pasta is cheap and light not to mention a staple in my day to day diet off trail anyway, so I don’t get too tired of it, but there are countless alternatives.

On my AT hike when not as meat conscious, I’d have dehydrated roast beef that was admittedly awesome and softened in hot water in 3 minutes or less. My mom dehydrated her famous cheesy potatos which are a personal fave at thanksgiving. The potatos were ready after a couple minutes in heating water.

Rice and beans are a challenge as many varieties require long cooking, I always liked the variety of brown and wild rices which now come in cheap instant varieties “boil-in-bag” which makes cooking quick and easy. Beans? Again, if you have time and a dehydrator, you can prepare refried/ instant whole black beans, kidney beans, etc. from canned or precooked. Or just look up mexcalirose which have convenient bags o’ instant beans pinto and black varieties.

Oh man, need I go on? Limitless KISS meal ideas. I don’t think I’ve ever missed the process of complicated cooking on the trail and argue that with some prep beforehand in town or at home, one don’t ever need miss the results. -Matt

Sweeper

#9

A good source for great-tasting just-add-water foods is Taste Adventure. All kinds of beans, soups, and “quick meals” that are available in bulk (save lots of $$) and can be enjoyed alone or as an ingredient in your on-trail chef’s creations.

BTW, I love the Pepsi-can stove. Boiling water in 5 minutes or less (2 cups), cheap fuel, and quick clean-up. Depending on where I’m hiking, I use different pot stands. Tent stakes are okay. My favorite: take a long (3 feet), thin (maybe 7 or 8 inches) strip of metal window screening. To form it, wrap it around the INSIDE of the smallest pot you’re using. Seal the outer edge with a paper clip or high-heat tape (like 3M High Temp Flue Tape) and you’ve got a perfect-sized pot stand that encircles your stove while in use, and stores conveniently in the pot. I like screening better than chicken wire because it is easier to work with and can be a good two-use item on the trail.

Teddy Roosevelt

#10

A lot of the sites with homemade stoves will tell you they often dont stack up to 2000 mile abuse. The aluminium breaks down, etc. I’ve been told the catfood stoves last longer than the pepsi can stoves…

myself, I have a brasslight (www.brasslight.com) this is basically the pepsi can stove made from brass… pretty cool, tiny, weightless thing! and its self pressurised!

MadAussieInLondon

#11

I did the Pepsi can thing. Works great. Alcohol is easy, but watch the contents. Heet comes in methynol or isopropol formulations. Both will work, but the iso can be sooty and puts out less heat, so you end up carrying more. If you have a choice, go with the methynol.

You might want to consider a commercial alky stove. Trangia makes a good one; has effective…sort of…simmer ring. Also has lid that you can use to shut off stove and conserve fuel. In a Pepsi stove, whatever you pour in is essentially what you will use. Even though the Trangia is brass, it’s not that much heavier and it is definitely more durable.

Jim2

#12

I did the Pepsi can thing. Works great. Alcohol is easy, but watch the contents. Heet comes in methynol or isopropol formulations. Both will work, but the iso can be sooty and puts out less heat, so you end up carrying more. If you have a choice, go with the methynol.

You might want to consider a commercial alky stove. Trangia makes a good one; has effective…sort of…simmer ring. Also has lid that you can use to shut off stove and conserve fuel. In a Pepsi stove, whatever you pour in is essentially what you will use. Even though the Trangia is brass, it’s not that much heavier and it is definitely more durable.

Jim2

#13

I used the methynol variety of HEET antifreeze the whole way on the AT. It worked fine, but now that I know better, I’d advise that one try to get a hold of denatured alcohol as it has less harmful chemicals in it than the antifreeze.

Sweeper

#14

Sounds like a good idea to me. WalMart carries the denatured alcohol stuff. Available in quart cans, about $3.00 or so. I suspect any decent hardware store or paint store will also. I know Home Depot does, but WalMart was cheaper. I’ll have to spring for a quart and see if I notice any difference in performance. Sure can do without extra toxins, too.

Jim2