Scared of the night

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#1

I am starting my NOBO AT thruhike at the end of february, and i have one problem. I am scared of the nighttime woods. If i hear a small noise, i am awake and scared all night. Does anyone have any advice. thru-hiking the AT is more important to me than you can imagine, and i have already set this year as the year i will do it. But that’s my problem, petrified of the woods. I know that sounds weird to desire to thru-hike and be scared of the woods, but ladies and gentlemen, thats my problem…any advice, suggestions, stories, etc are greatly appreciated.

homer

#2

Dear Homer:

With respect to various fears and concerns I’ve had in life, including the concerns you have have about being in the woods at night, I have always found it helpful to consider the odds, the statistical probability or improbability of an event.

For example, millions of people fly in airplanes every day, without dying in one. Therefore, the odds against someone encountering a difficulty while flying are millions to one.

Same with driving a car; or crossing the street; or playing sports.

You speak of fear of being in the woods at night. I interpret that to mean you have a fear or concern that some particular event will occur. A bear will come, or perhaps, a bear will come, or perhaps worst of all, a bear will come. Whatever your concern is, the odds are probably against it ever happening to you, as rarely happening to people generally in the grand scheme of things. My method is to note the odds, accept the low probababilty of the event occurring, softened further by the realization that worrying won’t alter the probability one way or the other (athough proper precautions might), and go to sleep.

By the way, fear of the unknown is common. Once the thing becomes known, the fear dissapates. Trust that this will in fact happen.

And finally, remember this: We are all more alike than unalike. Therefore, if others can and have done a thing, so can you.

Sincerely–Conan.

Conan

#3

homer. You will be safer at night in a tent or a shelter than you will be hiking during the day. If you are starting out at the end of February you will have company most of the way. The more people around you at night will also had to your safety.

Make sure you have a nice headlight for security. And if it helps sleep with a 4-5 inch knife blade. The knife will not be used, but it may make you feel a little more secure. After a few nights out, I know that you will over come any fear that you may have now.

Most people do start out with a little fear about thru-hiking, that is normal and that is helpful. Good Luck with your hike and we look forward to your journal. It will be interesting to read about your progress.

Bilko

#4

If you can delay your start date to March 1st I’m sure there will be other people around. That has always helped me with my fear of the dark. I got used to the sounds and didn’t need the security of other people later on.

Apple Pie

#5

I too used to get nervous at night and any little noise would have me sit bolt upright with flashnight in hand looking for the bear that I KNEW was out there. The first few nights on the trail I always slept in or near shelters surrounded by other hikers. The people noise (snoring, moving) would reassure me. After about a week I was so damn tired every night I would go unconscious within seconds of my head hitting the sleeping bag no matter where I was. After a couple of weeks I found that I could not sleep in towns and could not wait to get back to the woods.

Big B

#6

Homer, I agree with what’s been said already. I think you took an important step just posting here and admitting that your fear is real. I do section hikes, and the first year (2002) I was buying gear and wanted to try it out so I spent my first night alone in the woods a few miles from home. I just went up a ridge following a power line, turned into the woods at the crest and walked a mile into the trees and found a place. You might try that a few times before you go. I live in Alabama and in this area it’s mostly a big forest, even right near the city of Birmingham, so I just went close to home. You could spend your first night (or nights) in the back yard. Then, if you have any kind of woods or forest near your home just wander out and find a place. I think doing it will be your best therapy. Others who posted are right that you will not likely be alone much in the early days of your hike, but it would be a good idea to deal with this fear as much as you can before you get out there. That way it won’t be an issue for your fellow hikers to find out about (trail name “Fraidy Cat” or something), and you will have some more experience with it, even if you are still a little uncomfortable. Some of my most memorable times have been when I camped alone along the AT. I really enjoy it. I just gotta believe that you will get there too. But, for you, it may take a little practice. I hope is works out well for you. CBiscuit

CBiscuit

#7

Homer - one suggestion.

Before you leave, break your fear.

Take your tent out to nearby wooded areas and spend a night or two. Get over it before you get out there, or at least get yourself used to sleeping in the woods.

You’ll get over it while you’re out there, and it will end up being the most comforting sleep you’ll ever have. So, don’t worry.

bearbait

#8

To add to what’s said:

I have a friend who’s done a whole lot of hiking, even long distance hiking, who is afraid of the dark. Everything jolts him awake. He has legitimate reasons, a shocking wartime history in a country far, far away.

He carries alot of little LED lights, so he always has one.

He’s also just willing to be afraid.

He’s thruhiking the AT this year. Sometimes just accepting the fact that fear is going to be there anyway can help. You just don’t let it stop you.

Best of luck. I suspect the fears will lessen as the experience becomes familiar. Or at least the experience will overshadow the fear in your overall focus. Earplugs, surprisingly, can help the mind power down as well.

Jan LiteShoe

#9

Let’s try to rationally identify a couple of the possibilities that are associated with this fear, darkwoodsaphobia as I shall dub it:

  1. bear attack - the big bad black bear (grizzlies aren’t to be found along the AT) smells the Oreos you have munched on in your tent prior to bedtime, and wants some.
    Solution - in known bear areas bearbag and hang your food outside, don’t eat in your tent, and don’t use food-smelling strawberry shampoos. The bear is looking for food, and fully grown humans don’t qualify. Research the number of bear attacks on the AT (you can start here http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~insrisg/nature/nw99/bears.html) and you will find you are indeed more likey to be injured in a car accident near your home.

  2. psycho attack - very rare but not zero possiblity (a couple was murdered just last week along the Florida Trail in Ocala National Forest - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-bk-forest011006,0,6370549.story?coll=orl-news-headlines). Trust your instincts and ease away from any sketchy situations. Do you really think you are going to get the first draw on the psycho anyway?

I think a dozen uneventful (other than strange noises) nights in the woods will go a long way in mitigating this phobia.
Anyway, nobody lives forever, and why spoil the opportunity to take a long walk in the woods? Enjoy!

Zero

#10

Other camp sites used to creep me out at night but I found that the AT was very comfortable. In state parks around here I can never get very far from the road and there always seems to be people around that just dont look like hikers. I always wake up thinking someone is walking through my camp. On the AT I went solo and avoided other people but I never had that feeling at night.

Walk till you find a campsite you are comfortable with. I skipped many because they were too close to a road crossing or near obvious bear signs.

Bon Scott

#11

I’ve been skiddish in the woods for a long time and I’ve thru-hiked the AT and spent a summer ridgerunning, as well as lots of other trips. Maybe it’s because I’ve lived my whole life in NY falling asleep to sirens and honking horns that the unknown in the woods makes me stir.
I can offer this advice:
You’ll get used to it. Nothing is gonna happen, and the more time you spend in the woods the better.
If you start late feb, you’re gonna have a nice sized group around you. Not only that, but if you keep a slow pace, many of the march 1st starters will catch up to you. Staying in a full shelter can be lots of fun. Some people hate them. I thought the stories and the gigles and the farting and learning about new people and making friends at night was one of the best parts of the trail. It’ll make you forget about the boogey man too.

A-Train

#12

In the dark of night, every dropping acorn, every dropping pine cone, every wind-rustled branch and leaf was, I thought, definitely some animal stalking me.

And then I thought “wow! this is really cool”. humans must have felt the same way 10’s of thousands of years ago when there actually were bears, mountain lions, sabertooth’s, whatever, around to hunt them. And all they had to defend themselves with was a pointy stick - and each other.

marty

#13

I don’t precisely have fear of the woods…but I don’t sleep well ANYWHERE and any little noise can wake me up. So here’s practical suggestion: get earplugs. Or if you’re worried that not hearing anything will still cause you problems, cast aside that “lighter is better” for just 1 little case and get a “white noise machine”…the smaller the better, of course. That will make enough noise to block the little noises…but will still let you hear the big ones. (This is the one I use)

Doggone/GA

#14

I know what you mean.I always hiked with my husband and a litter of kids(9).In 1986 I went on the AT alone for the first time.My first night was a nightmare,every little noise I just knew it was a bear or something more ominious.And of course around 2am I had to get out to urinate.I was so scared I thought I would just kill over.I made it out and back into the tent and finally went to sleep around 6 am.I woke up around 9 and got out of the tent and was so excited I screamed out to the woods"I made it,I can really do this". After that first night I was OK.I went in the fall of the year so there wasn’t a lot of people out.I’m sure if you put your mind to it you can do it.The need to hike the AT is so strong you WILL over come this.Good luck,Happy trails and hang in there.We’ll all be rooting for you!!! TTG

Margaret Ellis

#15

Dear Homer Pidgin,

  1. If you have not already read Patrick McManus stories about his childhood, including his friend Homer, do so.
  2. I used to have a phobia about it raining while I was in a tent. I could sleep soundly in the leakiest of shelters, but under nylon, I was awake all night. The slightest sough of wind, a leaf falling, it all brought me bolt upright, scared that it might be raining. Around 25 years into my backpacking life I just happened to be passing my mother as she remarked to a friend about her “afraid of nothing” daughter. I made some crack about my rainaphobia. She stared literally agape for a what seemed like hours, then said, why didn’t you say something? Turns out, we lived in Arizona during my toddlerhood and my parents went camping fairly often. They knew they should never, ever sleep in a wash, but the whole state looked like a wash to their eastern eyes. So at the slightest cloud in the distance, distant flash of heat lightning,whatever, they packed up in a panic and got the heck out of there. I evidently made a connection that camping, plus possible rain=death.
    Just knowing that has made a huge difference and I equate tent plus rain=cozy and dry.
    Best wishes on your journey.
    Splat!

Splat!

#16

Just set up camp and go to sleep. You will be tired enough that you wont worry long. I stayed many nites alone and here I am.

Virginian

#17

I’m scared of the night too. Walking around Washington DC or almost any city larger than a small town. Statistically I have a lot more to be afraid of there than I do on 95% of the AT.

The advice to break your fear by camping outdoors near home before you start your hike is a good one.

On the Trail, after a few days you’ll be so tired that sleep should come easily.

Skyline

#18

We will find you, If we dont find you, our Beastly friends will ahhh ha ha!

NIGHT STALKER

#19

We got some sick bastards out there don’t we? Some sick, funny bastards. LOL

Zero

#20

man, everybody is scared of the woods. that’s why we build all these big cities, and pave everything. it’s natural to be scared out there in the dark by yourself. if i let myself start thinking about scary stuff i never get to sleep. my advice, try not to think about (duh), hike really hard so you are extra sleepy, or just imagine that every noise is caused by something small, because usually it is, small animals can make big noises when your senses are on red alert. failing that, find a couple of ladies to share your tent and keep you safe. eventually those noises will help you go to sleep, and the city noises will keep you up pooping in fear.

good luck see you in the woods

matt