Trailwear for Early Sept LT

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#1

Im thru hiking the LT S to N starting Sept 1. Naturally Im trying to limit pack weight and am wondering if I’ll need cold weather clothing for a hike whose high/low average is 66/40. Currently I plan on taking 3 pr wool sox, breathable light rainjacket, ultralite layer vest, superlite poncho, 2 pr lightweight convertible nylon pants, and 3 ultralite polyester shirts which could be layered. I always thought light layering was best when active outdoors. I have a 30 degree down bag. Do I need to add more insulation (ie down jacket)?

gozzy

#2

Don’t go by high/low average. Go by the low record, and you will be glad. We had mid 40’s on the Long Trail in early August and a drizzle. We were really glad we had the amount of warm stuff we had! Forget 2 pr pants (you only need 1 and rainpants) and 2 shirts. I wouldn’t go with down. I would go with something like the Patagonia Micropuff.

Gravity

Gravity

#3

I’d trade one of the nylon pants for long insulating pants, add a pair of liner gloves, a hat and a nylon head band. Also, I’d make sure at least one of the shirts offered some insulation (otherwise 3 shirts makes little sense). Given that, someone who is on the warm side should be OK. If it gets very cold, you can just throw everything on at on at once. Some people swear by down vests or down jackets. I find I alsmost never use them on the trail (except in winter, when not hiking and not in the sleeping bag).

I’m not sure why you need a poncho and a rain jacket.

pedxing

#4

The poncho is only 7 oz and covers me and my pack in a downpour. The Columbia rain jacket is more of a breathable windbreaker shell for light rain/windy days and for cold days the Patagonia micro puff vest can be worn underneath. From my past fishing experience rain pants are heavy, noisy, uncomfortable and tend to rip out unless I spend all day sitting in the boat. I can use sox for gloves and have a blaze orange knit cap so I dont get shot by some hunter. If I only take 1 pr of pants it seems they are gonna get mighty skunky without a change. I would think there are gonna be some warm trail times(ie midday)that thin nylon pants and polyester shirts would be appropriate. Correct me if Im wrong.

gozzy

#5

First off, my version of lightweight backpacking is that every ounce you carry should be justified in its use to you. I’m not carrying any of it. I find ponchos are never comfortable while backpacking - if they protect me from the rain, they also dench me in sweat that won’t evaporate because there is so much moisture in the air. I prefer to bag everything that I want to keep dry - this also protects things from leaks in things I carry and from mishaps during stream crossings. Other people love their ponchos and find extra uses for them as tarps, mats to sit on when the ground is wet, etc - or find a tarp that that can double as a poncho.

I find pants one pair of pants does OK for a three week hike. If you want back up, you might try one pair of shorts and one pair of convertibles. One thing I do, except in winter conditions, is on any reasonably warm day rinse the clothes I’m wearing and put them back on. They dry out quickly from my body heat. This works on pretty cool days if I’m moving. Almost any time I’m sweating its an opportunity to do this. I usually don’t use soap, because doing so in a responsible way would be time consuming.

Also, if you are going into town to resupply you will usually have a chance to use a laundromat. My town routine is: find a laundromat, start the wash cycle and then resupply, come back and start the dry cycle and then have a restaurant meal.

PedXing

#6

When it comes to keeping my down sleeping bag dry I go with extra protection–inside a garbage bag inside the stuff sack. Food and clothes are also inside garbage bags inside the pack. So I guess I dont need to take my pack cover (4oz).The raincoat Im using as a windbreaker so maybe I could lighten the load by leaving the poncho behind. But if the pack gets wet wont it be that much heavier to carry until it dries out?
I like the 1 pr shorts plus 1 pr convertible pants idea—I will need something to wear in the laundromat!

gozzy

#7

Lot’s of people prefer a pack cover. I might well be in the minority on that. However, if you are trying to go light, I’d say a raincoat, poncho and pack-cover is probably overkill.

Most packs are water resistant and don’t hold much water weight when rained on - but it may well be more than the weight of a pack cover. Of course some water will hang on the cover while its in use.

With the amount of thought you are putting into this, I’m sure you’ll do fine.

pedxing

#8

So much of this is personal preference. Luckily, there are plenty of towns along the LT that are easy places to stop and trade out gear if you find a piece isn’t working for you. If you’re hiking NOBO, Manchester is a great stop - easy hitch from the trail. The gearstore there is good. There’s also a post-office:) So if you decide you want to send your poncho home or pick up a pair of crocs, you can.

Each hiker is different. I carry a rain jacket but not rain pants (I also do most of my backpacking in the summer). I don’t bother with the down jacket, I wrap my sleeping bag around me to keep warm if it gets cold. All of this is personal preference. No matter what you bring with you, you will find yourself making adjustments along the way.

For the record, I like raincovers for my pack. As the days wear on, my ziplocs and garbage bags begin to get little nicks, the pack cover is extra insurance. And in a pinch you can combine it with your sleeping pad to make a shelter…

tumblina

#9

I just got back from the trail. Two nights ago at Jay Camp it was in the thirties. Plan on below freezing weather up north for sure.

Dreamer

#10

I just left journey’s end camp this morning, Dreamer. you and Drifter were a day or so ahead of me and my friend. (the Massachusetts Ground Pounders) saw your stuff in the logbooks, but never caught up. we finished at exactly noon on sunday (three weeks to the minute almost).

When we stayed at Corliss Camp a few nights ago, we didn’t get out of our sleeping bags until almost 10:30 because it had dipped into the thirties overnight and it warms up slowly in the a.m.

We had days when we could see our breath while hiking in the cool spots of the woods. definetly bring a hat and some light gloves. There were times i wished i had thermal bottoms, also.

John Doyle

#11

Three weeks is damn good time. It is funny, because it was four weeks for us almost to the minute as well. We saw many, many towns along the way though, so that’s why we took longer. Also, we started with 8-10 miles a day and ended with 13-16 per day. Are you having trouble re-adjusting to life?

Dreamer

#12

yeah, my friend had to be back for the 16th (today) so he could go see CSNY, so i bit the bullet and we made the deadline a lot easier than i was anticipating. we took a day at a shelter near manchester with some friends from home and two days in burlington, so we did have some downtime, but next time i think i’ll take a little longer. the LT is pretty rugged to be doing big days.

I’m pretty antsy, not knowing what to do with myself now that i’m not hiking 15-20 miles everyday… I’m dayhiking khatadin on saturday and i just got home monday. i will say that it is very nice to play my guitar again, though, and i can’t help stopping at convienience stores for vitamin water way too often.

John

#13

…I’m already thinking about the next mega journey…which is hopefully the PCT in two years. It is so hard reverting to a life of very minimal walking.

Dreamer

#14

hey dreamer,
remember me , i camped near you and drifter one night, you complained of a skunk, ha ha!!!
how was the trail, i left at brandon gap for work reasons, and am going back to finish sept 8.

Bryan AKA whitefoot.

whitefoot

#15

hey dreamer,
remember me , i camped near you and drifter one night, you complained of a skunk, ha ha!!!
how was the trail, i left at brandon gap for work reasons, and am going back to finish sept 8.

Bryan AKA whitefoot.

whitefoot

#16

you sound pretty good, but i agree with pedxing…lose one pair of pants and a shirt and replace them with smartwool maybe…i was always pretty OCD about makin’ sure there was something DRY in my pack at the end of the day, too (even if it’s only one special pair of “sleep socks” and some underwear!)

maw-ee